Or when hazards are present, it may be even wiser to aim for the opposite edge of the green. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Probably because he plays a higher spin ball than most. There is CG shift between lofts and there is a progressive hosel length in the wedges to balance out weight distribution. Smash Factor 1.475 For example, based on the average club speed of the AMA (93.4 mph) he should be able to hit his driver 255 yards (assuming certain ground conditions). In 2019, he launched the Justin Thomas Foundation, aimed to help military families, junior golf and children in need. Shaft: Aldila NV, 7-wood: Callaway Big Bertha pleased to hear you are enjoying it now though. I remember they had the analysis of his 8 iron that he hit at firestone from like 200+ out in a golf digest or something a couple years ago don't remember any of the numbers unfortunately tho M2, maybe 915 FD 913 HD 712u 3 714 AP2 4-p SM5 53, 59 Circa62 knock it close Advanced Members 6.2k Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% Posted This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I know what you are thinking, there is a lot that goes into making a wedge. 3-irons average 217 yds, 4-irons 208 yds, 5-irons 199 yds, 6-irons 188 yds, 7-irons 177 yds, 8-irons 164 yds and 9-irons 153 yds. Pro Modus 3 Tour 105 S, Wedges: Callaway Jaws (54-10S, 58-10S), Titleist Vokey Design SM6 (62-08M) Its important to turn your body to get that extra speed. As for his short irons his 8-iron yardage is 165, he hits his 9-iron 150 yards and his pitching wedge 135 yards on average. Justin is committed to showing benevolence and grace to children in need, with the goal of bolstering their confidence, strengthening their determination, and allowing them great possibilities. I'm not going to wear my body down trying to swing that club. I am a 35 year old AMA at a 15. Clear editor. Dont be that person, as how your club interacts with the turf is more vital in wedges than with any other club. If it was published in a journal as well, please could you direct me to where I could find it. My full swing with a driver was anout ewual to an average guys 9 iron turn. It's not the length that makes a pro. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364416375' post='6708959'] The average USGA handicap for male golfers has been between 14.0 and 15.0 since 2005. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. TSi2 18, VTS Silver 8xMizuno MP Fli Hi 21, Recoil 110MP-20 MMC 5-P,DG X100SM850F, 54S, 58MPXGCloser Gen 2Tour BX. Although early days yet is there a general reason for the different results in club path. Thats 95 extra yards, putting the actual distance of the drive under neutral conditions around 340-345. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. The one at 3811 spin carried 8.3 yards further. A good drive might only yield 250 and that isnt exciting. When its hit well I have hit enough times in the 260-270 range so Im probably in that 95 mph swing speed range. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. Almost every post I read on the internet the guys say they are swinging 125 mph. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. I went into a facility with Trackman launch monitors and have attached Especially when they was no other golfers in sight. How many average golfers drive the ball 250 yards and keep it in the fairway? Thats 95 extra yards, putting the actual distance of the drive under neutral conditions around 340 There is a very obvious relationship between these two variables. *Normalized data was used to calculate approach shot distances. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021). Club Head Speed 119.55 I think those numbers are a little high. I wonder what his user name is on WRX.. What about the balls we use. [/quote] And that was 12 years ago. I know a 47 year old who played d1 golf hits nothing but trap draws hits 8 irons 190. Distance is only a big deal to those who don't have it 915 FD T 'enG~q/Om\#Q`{ HLRpC45`|NiG*"2agUTeu9d10S8xl?O`,`~ja~=j'(d~e?7UN+&iHPI=8NQQ={"K9R1d"3j$NJd[?@fUM)IxJ)Sn-bcVk7*"d9;&!0tB%=7$W&q&:L^q1|T]6k)SF Add Driving Distance by Analyzing the Worlds Longest Driver! #:>PC"ljTTZ!@8[+D py"4]F: }X@`*0gIiF1|fv3cp{c?9EkD!j> Sorry that I can not be of better help right now. Looking at how far pros hit their irons is a much easier task these days due to all the tracking technology that exists however it still does not make it an exact science. Sure, I see guys hitting 250-300 yards, but they are far from the norm. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. [/quote] People that dwell on the fact that other people like to know their distances are funny. Does Trackman update this data each year? Shafts:KBS Tour 125 S+, Putter: TaylorMade Spider GT I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. I must say to the trap draw crowd, Justin Thomas isn't hitting trap draws while winning tournaments on the PGA Tour. He doesn't have the luxury of WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ Not at all. The respective games the AMA and professional golfers play today are two entirely separate entities and should be treated as such. Cobra Radspeed 5W RDX Blue, Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4i Tour AD DI They make me giddy and want to practice my short game all the time. Can anyone give me any insight of what all these numbers mean? Many golfers save some money and buy the SM8s and others will upgrade from SM7s to SM9s. 5 0 obj Dont think they ever release that stuff. Golf Balls are a Problem, Most Popular Driver on LPGA Tour? Web27K views, 94 likes, 1 loves, 33 comments, 13 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from TrackMan: Congratulations to Justin Thomas, winning the CJ Cup! Thomas is also only 1 of 6 players in PGA Tour history with 15 victories and 2 Majors before his 30th birthday, joining Jack Nicklaus, Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, Rory McIlroy and Tiger Woods. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. You cannot paste images directly. [/quote] Smash Factor 1.475 Elite level Trackman Golf Coaching from Expert & Award winning coaches, Scott and Jamie Howarth. #TeamTrackMan I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. That's my opinion at least. Not As Much As You Think! Its important for me to have a 58 degree that works first and foremost in a bunker and then to chip with, because I use my 52 to chip with more often than not as I like to see the ball on the ground and rolling towards the hole so it has a chance of dropping in. Required fields are marked *. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. A single figure golfer all of his adult life he lives in London and still enjoys playing whenever he can with friends and family. I have played golf for 22 years. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Playing golf as early as two-years-old, Justin learned all aspects of the game. With the AMA averaging 30 yards less than his potential, there is a lot of room for improvement. WebIn 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] [/quote] Oddly, I bet you find that you do NOT score significantly better than your handicap even though the distances are short. I didnt start playing until i was 31 and it was over by 42 yet my handicap was 12. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ratio - 1.48[/background][/size][/color] When you account for factors such as wind, elevation, ground conditions and also the context in which the shot is being played Koepka, like all the pros, has a number of options for each iron shot which makes the question of how far he hits each iron a bit more complex than at first you may think. The "you have to be a tour player to hit a long way" mentality is comical to say the least. It's good for some laughs. How Far Does a 3 Wood vs 5 Wood Go? Because of the trends and correlations found in the TrackMan Combine data, it is possible to calculate the proximity to hole for nearly any handicap or approach distance with high confidence. Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. [b]Tiger Woods[/b] Average club speed was 105-112, average ball speed was 139-152, and average rpm was between 4400-5100. Knowing what club to hit based on distance and the safest place to aim based on dispersion tendencies will undoubtedly benefit the golfer. [/quote] The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide, What Wedges Do the Pros Use? Ever found a yardage you like? [/color] However, it is more the fact that golfers are playing courses that are too long relative to club speed and skill level. This course setup for the AMA is assuming a perfectly optimal drive by the golfer so in theory 395 yards would be a maximum length for the AMA based on 50% GIR. Or Fox Hollow in Baltimore? A look at Brooks Koepkas yardage book below gives us a great insight into this and highlights how many types of shots pros can play with their irons. By funding programming and fulfilling requests of those in need, they are committed to showing compassion, displaying kindness, and making a difference in the world. I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. The strike felt tight knit and the spin was better than my SM8 52 degree wedge. When we compare these stock yardages for irons between the pros we get a consistent view of yardage which we can accurately compare across the players. Simmer down, all. [/quote] For those of you interested in how these averages compare to individual pros we have listed in the table below the average stock carry yardages for a selection of the top pros when it comes to how far they hit their driver. Very interesting but sort of depressing article. But you also have to add in the slight mishits, the rainy days, and the balls that land in the rough. Based on the Trackman, the fitter's recommendation was a 910 D3, 7.5 loft, and a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8X. WebCongratulations to Justin Thomas ! bT^GCUbIRT97U]"p:JJL)K^B"qPLCw4jw[ ))~u#-n MQ\~x/1c_kQ&mK I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. The calculated distances for the approach shot are based on actual driver data and optimized driver data for the AMA is also listed. Although there is a slow trend towards improvement, many in the golf industry wonder why progress has not been faster. Only 0.4% of the average male amateur population is above a club speed of 115 mph. Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 75 TX, Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) Bob Vokey makes the best wedges for the best players in the world on behalf of Titleist. We've enjoyed playing this great game with friends, family and competitors from all over the world for many years. Of course, playing shorter courses seems very obvious if you want to improve performance. My time spent on the driving range tells me there are a lot of guys hitting 100 yards, 125, 150, 175a few hitting 190.and an even smaller number hitting over 200. hard to say for sure who was at fault in the beginning i am 7 handicap play with a friend who is 26-28 i play blue he plays white even when an extra player joins me on the blue he still plays white. That's what I think. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. You could hear the thump and it was relentless in its consistency. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. WebJon Rahm TrackMan Numbers. They hit 4-irons 208 yards and 5-irons 199 yards on average. There are golfers out there who are scratch only hitting the ball 200-250. He is traditional in what he wants the wedge to look like. Grip: SuperStroke Traxion Flatso 1.0. How many times do you see TV reporting driving distance on an uphill into the wind hole? First of all, I would always encourage any golfer to get custom fitted for Titleist Vokey wedges because the loft/bounce/grind chart can be very confusing. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. I cant say I noticed the lower ball flight but this is something that Titleist have worked on gradually for the last few generations. I suppose you have the biggest and fastest car as well ? The way forward has to be more tighter averages with the driver maximising my best yardage from the swing speed I have. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE I spent a year playing by myself getting lessons finding a swing and just focused on having fun. How Far Should Beginners Hit A Golf Ball? However don't be overwhelmed, the good news is that there is only one set up choice in the PW, two in the GW and multiple in SW and LW due to the wider range of shorter shots you play with these clubs. Lets go one step further and use the TrackMan Combine data to see what kind of proximity to hole the AMA will be able to achieve at the various approach distances. [/quote] Exactly, I had the same perception in mind too. While golf has given Justin a career he thoroughly enjoys, he knows the life lessons golf can provide. I have the occasional outlier above 250 but thats rare. I hit the same. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. Flexibility, speed, and knowing how to transfer energy the most effi The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. This is really intersting reading and I could not agree more with the finding your distance principal. The previous table looked at the approach distance the AMA will have based on hole length and average drive distance. WebThis is Justin Thomas TrackMan Numbers How does yours Compare? Full details on the new TSR2 and TSR3 here! Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high On average, all of the projected distances were 50-70 yards further without the slice. On top of that it drew me feeling like unless I can hit it 250 every time and at least shoot in the low 90s from the Blue I might as well just give golf up. Their delivery will be erratic and Vokey is a bladed wedge which offers little help in the forgiveness department. I think the difference is practice, practice and more practice. Circa62, Tiger also ranks 125th on tour in total driving efficiency. Your email address will not be published. [/quote] Unlock the POWER Muscles in Your Golf Swing! You can see the fuller head at the top of the toe in the lob wedges when the clubs are aligned next to each other, but you can only slightly notice a change in shape at address. Mine isnt that much higher and i hit driver 275 yards. Obviously not. This philosophy has been a revelation to me. [/quote] The difference in a good amateur player and a touring professional is typically going to be short game, endurance, and that space between the ears. In the lower lofted wedges (46-52) at address the club sits squarer, the leading edge looks to be straighter and less rounded at the top of the toe. 4 out of 1000 swings avg 117 mph? Shaft:Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7 X, Irons: TaylorMade P770 (4-5), TaylorMade P7MC (6-PW) I think you wish you hit it further. I have always wanted a push draw and now i can see the light in the tunnel. Add That Little Extra Limited is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees (at no cost to you) by linking to Amazon.com. But if you can hit it 275 on your home muni track, that is at least 290 on a tour track with manicured fairways and perfect level tee boxes to hit from. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] He was also the beneficiary of a grant that afforded him the opportunity to travel and pursue his junior golf career. My teachers are always trying to get me to change my swing to generate club head speed, but this consistently leaves me frustrated and physically sore. Hi Gerry. Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. Driver 6 Iron Brooks Koepka Related Posts Erik Van Rooyen Driver Numbers Sei Young 398 were here. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer The false fronts, forced carries, and deep protecting bunkers are too difficult for the AMA to deal with. I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. Launch angle was between 17-22. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer Both wedges I could spin and release depending on the swing I put on the shot, I was especially a fan of the lob wedge chip shot which stopped on the second bounce. Well, they say that If you practice more and more youll get better and better. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila NV 7-wood: Michael Hopper whats in the bag accurate as of the WM Phoenix Open. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 85 S, Irons: Callaway Apex Forged (2021) (4-PW) Unless of course it's short enough to hit the 3 wood or driver at the green. [Note If you are interested in what drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players are using check out the in-depth analysis we have done here.]. When you watch the PGA Tour or any major championship on TV it is hard not to notice how far pro golfers hit the ball. On average PGA Tour pros hit a 3-wood a carry distance of 249 yards. On the longest drive, the projected distance(without the slice) was 332 yards. Spin: 3811. The following chart shows average handicap versus average club speed. [/quote] I also shot 86. It takes a detailed plan and it takes time, and this is why I think the improvement of AMAs isnt as impressive as it could be. Lj\gUk':Q9d P\Ko?#sU;:MRk;'FTz![]wJQRL/"&Xp]q%F"S4y_fY;<5PemA,YosVrs>l6:cc There he became one of the storied programs most decorated athletes being named Phil Mickelson Freshman of the Year, Jack Nicklaus Player of the Year, the Haskins Award Winner as the most outstanding player in collegiate and amateur golf, and capped his collegiate career by helping the Crimson Tide win their first National Championship in 2013.

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